Comments on: The “whys” behind better applications http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/ various stuff, mostly boring Mon, 14 May 2012 23:53:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Todd Clare http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-3521 Todd Clare Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:27:29 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-3521 I think the documentation that ships with Flex should address this (and does not). Macromedia docs were never that stellar about anything other than telling you how to turn the knobs, and Flex, although better, is still a long way off. The examples in the few "why" areas of the docs are so simplistic that you really don't get any more of an idea of why than before you read it. I think the documentation that ships with Flex should address this (and does not).

Macromedia docs were never that stellar about anything other than telling you how to turn the knobs, and Flex, although better, is still a long way off.

The examples in the few “why” areas of the docs are so simplistic that you really don’t get any more of an idea of why than before you read it.

]]> By: faizan http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-3386 faizan Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:48:03 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-3386 As the co-founder of a company that is betting on adobe technologies, I agree that the "why" is more critical from a business prespective. It is not as easy to exploit the strengths of the platform as it seems.As a geek it is easy to be consumed by the potential of a platform.But until you nail the "why" you won't have an intriguing end product. For the application that we are about to launch I have tried to highlight the reasoning in this short video.(www.iscrybe.com).Would love to hear your comments. As the co-founder of a company that is betting on adobe technologies, I agree that the “why” is more critical from a business prespective.

It is not as easy to exploit the strengths of the platform as it seems.As a geek it is easy to be consumed by the potential of a platform.But until you nail the “why” you won’t have an intriguing end product.

For the application that we are about to launch I have tried to highlight the reasoning in this short video.(www.iscrybe.com).Would love to hear your comments.

]]> By: Vic Matson http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2636 Vic Matson Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:30:09 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2636 From a business owners perspective hearing the benefits of Flex is great, but seeing examples and answering the why question is THE best way to sell it. I am currently developing an application and probably will be using Flex for its presentation and .NET for the back end but I find myself asking why not go with .NET for the whole thing. Matt Garland shows(http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/atoz.php)as a great resource for YUI IMO Flex needs the same. From a business owners perspective hearing the benefits of Flex is great, but seeing examples and answering the why question is THE best way to sell it.

I am currently developing an application and probably will be using Flex for its presentation and .NET for the back end but I find myself asking why not go with .NET for the whole thing.

Matt Garland shows(http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/atoz.php)as a great resource for YUI IMO Flex needs the same.

]]> By: LEE http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2633 LEE Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:59:53 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2633 I've often found Macromedia help/livedocs tutorials to be impenetrable, wondering why they would ever do that...and having to mentally disregard why they did that and just learn the darn procedure, so I could bend it to my will. If that makes any sense...What I really came to kuwamoto to say is, "how's Flex 2 OSX coming along"? hi!! I’ve often found Macromedia help/livedocs tutorials to be impenetrable, wondering why they would ever do that…and having to mentally disregard why they did that and just learn the darn procedure, so I could bend it to my will. If that makes any sense…What I really came to kuwamoto to say is, “how’s Flex 2 OSX coming along”?

hi!!

]]> By: James O'Reilly http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 James O'Reilly Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:16:40 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2599 "Head First Design Patterns" by Kathy Sierra is an excellent book for AS developers despite the fact it's written in Java. All of the examples are easily portable to AS and I'll be posting my source code ports on my site some time soon. It's not exactly the "why" you were looking for but it answered a lot of my "why" questions when it came to planning and pattern choosing. Just thought I'd mention it since it was one of her books. -- JOR “Head First Design Patterns” by Kathy Sierra is an excellent book for AS developers despite the fact it’s written in Java. All of the examples are easily portable to AS and I’ll be posting my source code ports on my site some time soon. It’s not exactly the “why” you were looking for but it answered a lot of my “why” questions when it came to planning and pattern choosing. Just thought I’d mention it since it was one of her books. — JOR

]]> By: sho http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2592 sho Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:38:39 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2592 Great discussion so far. Thanks. "Inmates" is a great book. A friend of mine, Robert Reimann, is the co-author of a subsequent book by Cooper, "About Face". Check it out if you haven't read it. I agree with the need to provide concrete examples. There's no substitute for seeing something with your own eyes. The Yahoo patterns project is a great start. This is the kind of thing that we have talked about doing in the past, and I'm kicking myself that they got there first! Dan: I agree. Sometimes you need an expert. :-) Great discussion so far. Thanks.

“Inmates” is a great book. A friend of mine, Robert Reimann, is the co-author of a subsequent book by Cooper, “About Face”. Check it out if you haven’t read it.

I agree with the need to provide concrete examples. There’s no substitute for seeing something with your own eyes.

The Yahoo patterns project is a great start. This is the kind of thing that we have talked about doing in the past, and I’m kicking myself that they got there first!

Dan: I agree. Sometimes you need an expert. :-)

]]> By: dan http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2582 dan Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:05:59 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2582 Hire a photographer :) Hire a photographer :)

]]> By: Hez http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2576 Hez Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:38:10 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2576 " In the meantime, what would you say to someone who wanted to build better applications? " - I'd say that anyone wanting to build rich, expressive applications with Flex needs to be patient and recognize that this is a talent in itself, and not something that any developer can just pick up. I've been developing an extremely (1000's classes) large Flex 1.5 application for almost 2 years now, and its become clear that managers/customers who saw some of the original Flex demo's were expecting this kind of rich functionality from the word go, developed by J2EE developers who had never programmed a UI in their life! To me, Flex offers two very solid, powerful development paradigms (the OO programming model and the ability to create expressive UI's) but they still require two totally seperate skill sets. ” In the meantime, what would you say to someone who wanted to build better applications? ” – I’d say that anyone wanting to build rich, expressive applications with Flex needs to be patient and recognize that this is a talent in itself, and not something that any developer can just pick up.

I’ve been developing an extremely (1000′s classes) large Flex 1.5 application for almost 2 years now, and its become clear that managers/customers who saw some of the original Flex demo’s were expecting this kind of rich functionality from the word go, developed by J2EE developers who had never programmed a UI in their life!

To me, Flex offers two very solid, powerful development paradigms (the OO programming model and the ability to create expressive UI’s) but they still require two totally seperate skill sets.

]]> By: Bjorn Schultheiss http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2575 Bjorn Schultheiss Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:47:22 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2575 I'm going to drop a short answer here as i am still at work. My motivation for choosing the Flash platform was to achieve a better success/conversion rate of viewers to customers for e-commerce applications. I’m going to drop a short answer here as i am still at work.

My motivation for choosing the Flash platform was to achieve a better success/conversion rate of viewers to customers for e-commerce applications.

]]> By: Mike Britton http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-2573 Mike Britton Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:01:12 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2006/08/14/the-whys-behind-better-applications/#comment-2573 Create awesome software with Flex, and people will want it for their own projects. They won't even know what it is. They'll just show you an example and say "I want that." Create awesome software with Flex, and people will want it for their own projects. They won’t even know what it is. They’ll just show you an example and say “I want that.”

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