Comments on: Quick analysis of Adobe and Buzzword http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/ music, technology, interfaces, people Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:37:14 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michal Migurski http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-64958 Michal Migurski Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:55 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-64958 No unhappy, just totally baffled by Adobe's fragmentation of its product line since the Macromedia acquisition. Flash is our bread & butter, yet it feels out-of-hand. Also, now a little embarrassed to have gotten all OMGWTFThermo not knowing you were on the team. =) Would love to meet up sometime - will continue via e-mail... No unhappy, just totally baffled by Adobe’s fragmentation of its product line since the Macromedia acquisition. Flash is our bread & butter, yet it feels out-of-hand. Also, now a little embarrassed to have gotten all OMGWTFThermo not knowing you were on the team. =)

Would love to meet up sometime – will continue via e-mail…

]]> By: Sho http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-64613 Sho Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:20:36 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-64613 Wow mike... Not happy? Thermo is not a new framework. It's a design tool for RIAs, and it uses the same flex frameworks that flexbuilder does (albeit a later version ) It's the thing I spent most of my time working on until I recently quit adobe. I'd be glad to have lunch with you sometime to shoot the sh@t about it if you're interested. (lunch offer only valid to folks like mike who i know from way back :-) Wow mike… Not happy?

Thermo is not a new framework. It’s a design tool for RIAs, and it uses the same flex frameworks that flexbuilder does (albeit a later version )

It’s the thing I spent most of my time working on until I recently quit adobe. I’d be glad to have lunch with you sometime to shoot the sh@t about it if you’re interested. (lunch offer only valid to folks like mike who i know from way back :-)

]]> By: Michal Migurski http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-64485 Michal Migurski Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:13:32 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-64485 So ... what the hell is Thermo? It might be best for Adobe to chill the hell out and stop releasing products that step on each other's toes like this. I'm finally beginning to understand what they've done to Flash in splitting Flex Builder off, and the company is still coming fast & furious with hot! new! frameworks! for making things! easier! for designers! So … what the hell is Thermo? It might be best for Adobe to chill the hell out and stop releasing products that step on each other’s toes like this. I’m finally beginning to understand what they’ve done to Flash in splitting Flex Builder off, and the company is still coming fast & furious with hot! new! frameworks! for making things! easier! for designers!

]]> By: Sho http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-64071 Sho Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:52:34 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-64071 Great news! Great news!

]]> By: Andrew Shebanow http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-63977 Andrew Shebanow Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:21:57 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-63977 Buzzword will still be free to all comers. We intend to add additional features over time as premium services. Buzzword will still be free to all comers. We intend to add additional features over time as premium services.

]]> By: Mike Potter http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/comment-page-1/#comment-63916 Mike Potter Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:01:31 +0000 http://kuwamoto.org/2007/10/01/quick-analysis-of-adobe-and-buzzword/#comment-63916 Nice post, glad to see you're still posting. I'd love your thoughts on monetization models of RIAs. I think the fremium model actually has a lot of potential on the web. In fact, we're seeing an increase use of that these days: Gmail is free, but more storage costs you. Picnik is free, but some filters and effects are available to premium members only. I've talked to a few people here and they're thinking that advertising is the way to go with this app (not people who would be making that decision, thankfully.) Analyze the content, and display relevant ads beside it. I don't buy it: I don't want ads based on the content of my docs, and in many cases you couldn't find a relevant ad for them anyways (my status report would be a good example.). In my mind, Yahoo has the potential here for taking the online ad lead, they've got the best ad system based on user behaviour. But, who wants to see ads based on their previous behaviour, sounds a bit too big brother for me. So, I do believe that the freemium model will eventually lead the way online - the free version gets users, and the power users pay for everyone else to keep using it. Mike P.S. I don't know how you connected Buzzword and the enterprise - I haven't thought of it as an enterprise play. Office is too hard to topple there IMHO. Nice post, glad to see you’re still posting.

I’d love your thoughts on monetization models of RIAs. I think the fremium model actually has a lot of potential on the web. In fact, we’re seeing an increase use of that these days: Gmail is free, but more storage costs you. Picnik is free, but some filters and effects are available to premium members only.

I’ve talked to a few people here and they’re thinking that advertising is the way to go with this app (not people who would be making that decision, thankfully.) Analyze the content, and display relevant ads beside it. I don’t buy it: I don’t want ads based on the content of my docs, and in many cases you couldn’t find a relevant ad for them anyways (my status report would be a good example.). In my mind, Yahoo has the potential here for taking the online ad lead, they’ve got the best ad system based on user behaviour. But, who wants to see ads based on their previous behaviour, sounds a bit too big brother for me.

So, I do believe that the freemium model will eventually lead the way online – the free version gets users, and the power users pay for everyone else to keep using it.

Mike

P.S. I don’t know how you connected Buzzword and the enterprise – I haven’t thought of it as an enterprise play. Office is too hard to topple there IMHO.

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